Variation for same note?

Manuel Senfft176 views7 posts
  • Manuel Senfft

    Hey there,

    when I use Synplant (v2), especially when using Genopatch, I come to patches, where the same note played in repetition can sound rather dead. Take this (random) patch, for example:

    Sto Plura Querimonia.synplant(2.53kB, 214 downloads)

    If you play the same note in repetition, to me it sounds rather dead.

    1. To the users: What ideas do you have to make Synplant patches come more to life, when the same note is used in repetition?
    1. To the devs: would it be a good idea (or some kind of feature request?) to get some kind of control, which would e.g. dial in some variation for every new played note? I guess new controls are rather no option, since Genopatch had to learn this new controls as well, right? :D

    Maybe I am even missing some simple technique. E.g. I like to use velocity to control some aspects of the sound. Thus the same note played on slightly differetn velocities can make the sound more living after all. Still sometimes it just does not work that well.

    And don't get me wrong: Synplant still sounds fantastic and most of all is just so much fun to use! (=

  • Manuel Senfft

    Any thoughts here? Aka "bump".

  • Manuel Senfft

    I recently got RANDOM by Beatsurfing and like the idea. This synth also is a "random synth", basically.

    The thing why I post it in this thread: it has a slider which is called Instability, which internally alters the sound for each new played note. Maybe this could be a thing for Synplant as well? In my opinion it makes a synth preset so much more organic.

  • Fagan Wilcox

    Just purchased it and I assumed this was the default but I’m having the same problem. Unable to have variation playing the same note even though I can click manually on the branch. Did you find a solution to step through the branch iterations?

  • Manuel Senfft

    - Fagan Wilcox wrote:
    Just purchased it and I assumed this was the default but I’m having the same problem. Unable to have variation playing the same note even though I can click manually on the branch. Did you find a solution to step through the branch iterations?

    To be honest, I am not really sure, what your problem is. The thread here does not reflect a real problem. It is rather meant as some kind of **feature request**.

    If you want to have the branch being automated and reflect variations in that way, you should take a look if your DAW could automate this on new note-down events or so.

    My approach with this feature request (it is no bug or so! Synplant 2 works totally like intended in this regards!) would be that there could be some kind of variation knob or setting or so. In a way that by a percentage or so every newly hit note would vary the sound a bit or so.

  • Magnus Lidström

    If you want the same MIDI note number to play different branches you could either use the "Velocity Bulb Mode" (to let different velocities play different branches) or automate the "Rotation" parameter randomly, e.g. from a random LFO source in your DAW (if you have a DAW with such features).

  • Manuel Senfft

    Also a nice idea for Fagans "issue". Thanks for sharing. (:

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